Please post your group's evaluation of the play. Each person must individually comment on the other group's post.
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Death of a Salesman
2/10/2016 01:11:46 pm
This play is a TRAGEDY because of its magnitude, use of dialogue, occurring actions, and the emotions it creates among audience members. It also leaves no room for the illogical and does not include any unnecessary parts.
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Connor Steiger
2/11/2016 01:03:10 pm
Does Biff really kill his father, I believe that his own insanity killed himself. Would you consider Willy a tragic hero? Biff has trouble finding himself, and what he wants to find his true self. I agree with what you guys have.
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jno
2/11/2016 01:15:12 pm
I agree because I felt bad for willy and his family as well, for what they had to go thew growing up. Everything that happened to willy made him go deeper and deeper into depression. I be leave that this play was a TRAGEDY because the emotion it creates is sad and depressing.The way he led his life and the games he played was emotional for all involved in a lot of ways.
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Ashley Wegner
2/12/2016 03:07:44 pm
Who specifically do you mean by he? When you talk of hamartia, I feel as if you could mean either Willy or Biff. Both really had a distorted image of themselves. It's simply Biff who realizes it as opposed to Willy. Overall, this is a well done analysis. While I would agree with others in saying it's a bit dramatic to say Biff ended up killing his father, that can be overlooked.
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Kylee Sneve
2/12/2016 11:32:48 pm
I agree that The Death of a Salesman is a tragedy, as well. However, I dont think that Biff killed his father. His father had his own problems and his death wasn't caused by Biff. I know that you guys agree that this play has a complex plot, so what makes it have a complex plot throughout the play?
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Jarred Kasper
2/16/2016 09:25:55 am
I agree with you guys, I think that death of a salesman is a tragedy, because of how the plot.Although I don't agree on you saying that biff killed his dad. I think that Mr. Loman had his own problems. I think the death of Willie Loman was caused from his insanity not his son.
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Taylor Briann Holden
2/16/2016 10:27:57 am
I agree. However, I think Biff's fathers death is a lot more complicated than it seems. It wasn't just his fathers insanity or his separate issues that killed him. Those things did have a part in it but it wasn't the main cause. Biff's actions and never being the man his father wanted him to be caused Willy to even go more nuts. Willy was already crazy and Biff just made the process go a little faster.
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Dallas Evernden
2/11/2016 01:19:50 pm
I agree with most of what is said, but I would not go as far as to say that Biff essentially killed his father. Your statement that Willy "thought himself into insanity" is one that I really agree with. I think that Willy's insanity is what killed him, not his relationship with his son, Biff. I think that Aristotle would agree with what you have come up with for this play. You followed all of his key points, well done.
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The Glass Menagerie
2/11/2016 01:19:59 pm
Aristotle would consider The Glass Menagerie to be a tragedy because it leaves the audience with multiple waves of pity and fear, the main character is in a constant face-to-face battle with her decisions, there is a complex plot, and actions are applied through action.
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Kadence Lanier
2/11/2016 01:40:00 pm
Part of a tragedy is the fact that there is room left for the illogical. However, in many reviews of the Glass Menagerie people have claimed that the very existence of Tom Wingfield's character is "highly illogical" because of his depressing attitude and lack of sound reasoning when evaluating his life. Would this be a big enough reason to believe that the play is an epic tragedy, or is it still just considered a tragedy because it has no unnecessary parts? I think that it could really go either way.
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Holli Heinen
2/11/2016 02:17:35 pm
The Glass Menagerie is in fact a tragedy because it meets all of Aristotle's criteria. Laura's story is very sad and you feel pity for her throughout the whole play. I understand that the broken glass unicorn is a important event in this play, but why have you classified it as a peripeteia? I think that one of the main plot twists occurs even before the play begins. Their father leaving is one of the main reasons that all of the characters in the Glass Menagerie are influenced by his "escape". So, what is your reasoning for saying that a peripeteia occurs when the glass unicorn is broken?
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Ashley Wegner
2/12/2016 11:00:40 am
You make a valid argument in saying that the twist occurs before the play even starts, Holli. In fact, I would go as far as to agree with you. As to why we classified the event as peripeteia is a bit of a difficult thing to explain. Ultimately, it boils down to something like this. While Laura was limiting herself because of her constant worry of her flaw, the collection ultimately distorted her reality. When the unicorn was shattered, suddenly Laura was free from this unhealthy reality, and able to see and accept things somewhat realistically. Simply (plot twist!), it wasn't just her causing the downfall, it was the collection that contributed largely to it.
Samantha Schroeder
2/12/2016 12:58:56 pm
This play is a great example of an epic tragedy and the group did a great job analyzing every part. However, while it was stated that there was a point of recognition in the play, the said part of the play is not mentioned. Which part of The Glass Menagerie shows recognition?
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Lucas Lysne
2/12/2016 01:02:54 pm
I think that your group’s defining of The Glass Menagerie as just a tragedy is somewhat flawed. I think that The Glass Menagerie would be defined by Aristotle as more of an Epic Tragedy, largely due to the fact of Tom’s narration and framing of the play putting it more into the context of an epic. I think with this consideration in mind, combined with the tragic elements that you have mentioned, that The Glass Menagerie would more aptly categorized as an Epic Tragedy.
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allen longstreet
2/12/2016 10:32:19 am
I agree with what you guys have. Willy was lost from the beginning and it just got worse. The relationship between his kids have had the biggest impact on willy. Biff knew his farther is was trying to kill himself but why didn't he take the hose away. Work was willy's life when he lost his job and he couldn't travel anymore he lost his mind and lied to his family and that what broke the great relationship with his son. That's why I think that biff killed his father because he was lied to his whole life and he lost his trust and care in his father.
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